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Sergeant Smuggles — Today at 5:23 PM
Giovanna's looping oki strike vs throw 5050
Every mention of Back throw is a slightly delayed Dash block > throw, and every meaty 2S is also a slight delay
Grounded 214K hit into
Dash x3 > very slight delay back throw
vs
Dash x2 > very slight delay 2S(2) meaty
or
Throw into
Dash 5K whiff > Dash back throw
vs
Dash 5K whiff > 2S
or
iad jK214S into
Dash x4 > back throw
vs
Dash x3 > 2S meaty
The low meaty 2S second hit makes this virtually impossible for a human to OS the setup with a fuzzy jump or a fuzzy mash, the dash block throw will block any normals mashed on wake up that are faster than the 5f of throw invul someone has on wake up, while also teching a wake up throw. There is literally a single frame in which you could potentially get counter hit by a wake up button.
Low beats: Mash, jump, fuzzy jump, fuzzy throw tech, and backdash
Throw beats: Block, any button slower than 5f, any DP, will block any buttons faster than 5f with the exception of buttons hitting you on exactly frame 5, which can't be a heavy CH in any situation so who cares smh
Wake up Burst and wake up invul super, get out these are just hard baits
PRC OS for throw option
Dash Throw plink PRC
Leads to Dash cS punish if opponent wakes up back dash, lets you jump jP x6 > cS and jail them into 40% risc, lets you block and punish burst, doesn't come out on hit, auto YRC vs wake up 5f or faster mash, if they wake up 5P or 2P > nothing they can punish YRC by blocking but this is beaten by 2S option almost always anyways
[5:23 PM]
More 2S vs Throw 5050 situations -
On block
cS or 5K > TK 214S on block > Dash throw vs 2S
Iad jH safe jumps > Dash throw vs 2S (Don't delay the jH)
Iad jKjD on block > Dash throw vs 2S
Any Red RC on block > Dash x2 throw vs Dash 2S
Jump cancel BRC fuzzy high option jH > falling jH > Dash Throw vs 2S
Jump cancel BRC fuzzy Low option 2K > Dash throw vs delay 2S
On hit
Throw > Dash 5K whiff > Dash back throw vs 2S
Grounded 214K > Dash x3 throw vs Dash x2 2S
CH 6P > Dash x4 throw vs Dash x3 2S
jK214S cross up > Dash x4 throw vs Dash x3 2S
[5:24 PM]
I called it, needed to be two messages lmao