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BonbeiYesterday at 11:07 PM im going through ch combos cocojam™™Yesterday at 11:07 PM its basically nothing, just something to help get used to c.s bomber BonbeiYesterday at 11:07 PM And off the important stuff NuttaconYesterday at 11:07 PM 5K > 2D > 214H 2K > 2D > 214H Condition with 5K > 6P > 214S, then can go for 5K > 6P > Winter Mantis 5D (launch) > j.P > j.D > jc. > j.P > j.D > j.S > [j.S or Axl Bomber] – j.S finish for side switch Winter Mantis (close range) > 5P > Rensen > Winter Cherry c.S > f.S > 5H > Snail j.H > c.S > 5H > Snail Throw > RC > c.S > Snail (CH) 2D > c.S > 6K > Snail BonbeiYesterday at 11:07 PM 5p 2h 2p etc [11:08 PM] What about snail rc NuttaconYesterday at 11:08 PM i was working on (CH) 2H and (CH) 6P when the server went explode, and now i forget them RIP BonbeiYesterday at 11:08 PM do you get auto ji from snail rc [11:09 PM] Or whatever the yeet one is cocojam™™Yesterday at 11:09 PM oh wait i did ch 2h > rensen > s followup and it was a full combo i think BonbeiYesterday at 11:09 PM im sorry for breaking the server [11:09 PM] :( name change go brrrrrYesterday at 11:09 PM I've been putting together this https://tinyurl.com/AxlBetaNotes 1 [11:09 PM] can I add that stuff to it? NuttaconYesterday at 11:09 PM sure BonbeiYesterday at 11:14 PM formula for rc snail is rensen 8 cs into stuff? LukeYesterday at 11:16 PM oh you can link cS from 2D CH? [11:16 PM] then you can go into bomber from that right
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LukeToday at 3:43 PM snail seems to be the go to loop pickup for antiairs near the corner with RC you can go into cS TK bomber pickups, and I got it once to link to 5K on the way down and never again after cS > 5H > snail > 66 RC drift > cs TK bomber but if you can link 5k then 6K gatling should work, and then snail ender maybe [3:44 PM] the 5k pickup link after that string seemed extremely tight though [3:47 PM] without RC the max I seem to get after a 2S is 2S > snail > 5P > snail [3:47 PM] 5P > 6K > snail > 5P > snail also works but is range limited on the last snail, rensen does not pick up from farther ranges unfortunately [3:48 PM] (if anyone is wondering, I am somehow still in training mode after starting the ps4 from rest mode) [3:49 PM] aaaaaand I got kicked out lol [3:51 PM] someone smarter than me can probably figure out better combo routes cocojam™™Today at 3:53 PM snail really do be the bomber loop replacement huh LukeToday at 3:53 PM looks like lol [3:53 PM] it's a cool move [3:53 PM] but its no bomber [3:53 PM] you can still do bomber loops but they seem really hard [3:53 PM] because people fall so fucking fast now [3:54 PM] so I feel like I'm limited to cS or 5K > Bomber looping cocojam™™Today at 3:54 PM i mean you are because of jump cancels LukeToday at 3:54 PM yea but I also cant really pick up from the air [3:55 PM] because they fall too fast cocojam™™Today at 3:55 PM oh LukeToday at 3:55 PM like, you can if youre looking for it [3:55 PM] but after a single bomber if you're somewhat deep in a combo you need to pick up with 5k or cS, jumping doesnt seem fast enough to pick up after bomber [3:56 PM] so like the above string I posted [3:56 PM] cS > 5H > snail > 66 RC drift > cs TK bomber [3:56 PM] theres a tight link where you can link up 5K when tehy're falling down but that's about it. You can probably do 5K > tk bomber to pick up but no jumping and meeting them in the air to do like jD bomber and stuff [3:57 PM] but also after 2S its not really possible either [3:57 PM] kinda sucks [3:57 PM] I feel like I got it a few times after 2S but it's after CH and being almost right next to them in the corner, so not a realistic scenario [4:00 PM] honestly probably have to forget about doing anything other than snail out of 2S [4:00 PM] just 2S > snail > whatever cocojam™™Today at 4:02 PM yeah snail is a magic tool [4:02 PM] and 2s is stinky now LukeToday at 4:03 PM at least with RC drift cS > TK bomber seems far more of a reality [4:03 PM] i still dont know how to properly wallbreak without doing super or that cS tk bomber starter combo haha cocojam™™Today at 4:04 PM what input are you using for for tk bomber when you cancel out of c.s? I was struggling with it, was trying 6923 and 9623 like i did off of different confirms in xrd but nothin was working LukeToday at 4:06 PM 923H works for me [4:06 PM] hold 9 to get the first jc frame and then 23H cocojam™™Today at 4:07 PM i'll try that when its back up, i think i was doing 23 too fast before i was able to jump off of c.s [4:07 PM] patience is not my strong suit(edited) LukeToday at 4:07 PM if you do it too fast you might get a 6H or 5H gatling. if you do it too slow you get a jH cocojam™™Today at 4:08 PM yeah, or the third option i kept getting, mashing 6923 like butter and getting red super LukeToday at 4:08 PM hahah [4:08 PM] yeah that happened to me at first a bit
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LukeToday at 10:57 AM rensen as an ender seems good only for far AA confirms from 5P [10:57 AM] apparently you can get it after 2S Ch > 6K but I dont know if you have enough time to charge if it's not CH [10:58 AM] the startup is massive now, and it seems more suited as an actual long range fireball rather than a combo/blockstun tool. snail is what you want for what you used to use rensen for [10:58 AM] it launches on hit so you get some of that rensen goodness, but everyone bounces so far away now that I'm still not sure how to reliably convert off of it [10:59 AM] the good thing is that snail is actually sick, covers a massive amount of the mid range even if it kinda sucks that it has a deadzone close to axl IzzirezToday at 11:01 AM air rainwater crossups have been doing some work for me [11:01 AM] and air snail is good as well LukeToday at 11:01 AM wait. you can do air rainwater? I thought it was grounded only FuryfireToday at 11:02 AM Air Snail is what he likely means LukeToday at 11:02 AM yeah but then they said air snail lol IzzirezToday at 11:02 AM am I misremembering? I thought thats what I was doing last night lol LukeToday at 11:02 AM rainwater is only grounded pretty sure IzzirezToday at 11:02 AM I need to boot up my game again, hold on LukeToday at 11:02 AM and i dont know how you combo into it. its been the move that I've used the least(edited) IzzirezToday at 11:03 AM your right, rainwater crossups have been catching people for me and air snail has been pretty good as well LukeToday at 11:04 AM how do you crossup off rainwater? you move backwards IzzirezToday at 11:04 AM I stayed up way too late last night playing, trying to remember all the stuff I was doing lol [11:04 AM] I'll need to check my replays, but I definitely had it cross people up [11:05 AM] there are some weird interactions with dashing under and air dashes and such LukeToday at 11:06 AM oh I can see that. would require the opp to be moving forwards I guess [11:06 AM] or you can dash under too I guess Message #axl-lounge
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LukeToday at 10:35 AM btw I forgot last night cause I was in the middle of the beta excitement but you can actually do 923H for tk bomber [10:35 AM] which is what I actually do [10:36 AM] the fwd input in 9 counts for the DP motion [10:36 AM] my issue with that combo is I have no idea when it is applicable in a match, confirming cS into bomber is not something I imagine myself doing often and outside of punish situations in the corner it doesnt seem that applicable [10:38 AM] the fact that 5K and cS are the only jump cancelable normals is ass. It makes the AA game so much less dynamic and more boring for Axl. I dont know why they went with this homogeneous approach to jc normals(edited) FuryfireToday at 10:40 AM Yeah. I'm doing the 923H for mine [10:40 AM] It's the easiest way on Pad [10:41 AM] As for Bomber. [10:41 AM] It really is best used in the corner [10:41 AM] It's just so much easier to end your strings with 214H [10:41 AM] And it does about the same damage [10:43 AM] It's really good used after time stop though because of the launch LukeToday at 10:44 AM yes bomber is for corner, just your only jc normals are cS and 5K FuryfireToday at 10:44 AM Correct LukeToday at 10:44 AM so normal into tk bomber combo is only good for that [10:44 AM] i dont know how applicable that specific setup is in real matches FuryfireToday at 10:45 AM Well, Axl doesn't get many wall splat tools outside of Axl Bomber [10:45 AM] Just based on playing [10:45 AM] I'm sure there's more LukeToday at 10:45 AM I just mean the specific scenario of cS > TK bomber FuryfireToday at 10:45 AM Oh yeah LukeToday at 10:45 AM or even 5K > TK bomber [10:46 AM] maybe on CH you have enough time to confirm but it doesnt sound doable to me FuryfireToday at 10:46 AM It doesn't - You just have to eye it LukeToday at 10:46 AM well then it's not really good outside of punish situations in the corner which is what I was saying FuryfireToday at 10:46 AM Yeah... I just feel like I should practice it for that situation though but in any case... I should practice other things LukeToday at 10:47 AM Ive been trying to get stuff to go into bomber from 2S in the corner and it doesnt really seem like you get much, but I didnt know that 5K was jump cancelable until it was time for me to stop for the evening
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slushh - Blue RC funnE
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How are you hitting the rc midscreen [11:29 PM] It’s way too far for me LukeToday at 11:30 PM Might have been corner tbh slushToday at 11:30 PM Wouldn’t you just axl bomber in corner tho [11:31 PM] What character did you do that combo on @Izzirez [11:31 PM] Cause I got 202 on Millia [11:31 PM] Ahhh ok [11:32 PM] 5p and 6k do more damage the longer they’re out. IzzirezToday at 11:32 PM I did it on millia, not sure on the damage difference
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LukeToday at 10:59 PM 5K 2D 214H cS 5H 214H 2K 2D 214H 00000000Today at 11:00 PM Yeah. I'm getting the impression that game plan is to pester from full screen, take any wall breaks you can, stock one vision and keep them on defense. It's not really that... Dynamic. LukeToday at 11:00 PM I'm coming from +R so doing cS or 5H for starting up pressure is not really something im used to do IzzirezToday at 11:00 PM cS fS 5H 214H RC dash 5P is 181 damage + carry LukeToday at 11:00 PM you sure you cant go into jK bomber maybe I was trying other stuff or maybe its just on CH IzzirezToday at 11:01 PM idk, I can't get close enough after 214H RC to jK or jD yet. Ill keep trying, I'm probably just bad 00000000Today at 11:02 PM You can't bomber from mid screen with that combo. LukeToday at 11:02 PM i might be misremembering or it might need to be close to the corner IzzirezToday at 11:02 PM I'm just trying to see what I can do from a normal confirm range that can lead to aerial stuff 00000000Today at 11:08 PM Hm, I'm getting 184 with ending in 214h RC 5p 6k
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LukeToday at 10:50 PM snail is really good have to unlearn rensen as an ender and go for snail more it covers a huge amount of space I still dont have any good combos but it would seem as if most of the good reward is on snail ender with RC 00000000Today at 10:52 PM Snail is basically the only thing you wanna end a combo with. Rensen should almost exclusively be used full screen or to kill projectiles, I don't feel it has (much) combo value anymore and start up is too slow. LukeToday at 10:52 PM yeah it really doesnt its good for long range 5P where snail wont reach IzzirezToday at 10:54 PM I've been trying to see if there is anything that can really connect midscreen but not finding much so far LukeToday at 10:54 PM you can RC snail and go for jK or jD bomber I'm pretty sure i dont know if there are character limitations or whatever 00000000Today at 10:55 PM That's another thing, ranges are much more specific. Rensen and command grab is full screen. 6k and 5p are about half screen, 2p and snail are about a quarter screen LukeToday at 10:55 PM jK is jump and airdash cancelable which is neat but i dont know that it does much for anything 2p is just sad lol i dont know what it's good for anymore i hope the hurtbox is not atrocious at least if it's good and disjointed its ok as a low reward poke I guess IzzirezToday at 10:56 PM only thing I've found so far is fS H snail RC dash 5P for 175 at fs range yeah everything that works with 2P works with 2K better 00000000Today at 10:57 PM 2p isn't great for about anything, I agree. Dunno why they would take away 3p though, would much rather have that. LukeToday at 10:57 PM yeah I miss 3p but the game isnt about that kind of pressure anymore i dont know how to pressure people in the corner but my feeling is that axl is not really supposed to 00000000Today at 10:58 PM We don't have pressure, basically. Yes, I don't think they want axl to really be very close at all. LukeToday at 10:58 PM my main issues so far is that antiair confirms are really weird not having jump cancelable normals makes it so jump timing is super strict for any sort of high damage bomber conversion
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DangerYesterday at 7:36 PM so what are the go-to buttons right now for Axl? What kinda gameplan should I be focusing on as a new player? when I first pick up games I like to stick to a pretty simple plan and do mostly safe-ish stuff to try and get a feel. my main concern playing axl is that he's a charge character and I am really afraid of like backing myself into the corner a lot as a new player and just kinda screwing myself over that way GrimFlashYesterday at 7:42 PM 2P and 2H, and [4]6S control ground space Use 6K or 2S to anti air Your gameplan with Axl is to control the pace of the match That doesn’t necessarily mean sitting back and zoning all day, as you can approach once you get them to sit still Axl has the benefit of being able to initiate his pressure from the mid range So once you’re in said range, you’re pretty much golden to initiate a blockstring FuryfireYesterday at 8:22 PM Up close, j.H almost feels like like a instant overhead. 214S is also really amazing for control as well because you can cancel into it off your j.P and j.S cocojam™™Yesterday at 8:47 PM are you sure its a cancel and not just fast recovery because youre hitting people at the end of the move? that sounds weird with j.214s i meanc ocojam™™Today at 9:21 AM Last beta we were just confirming shit into 214h for easy shit
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True to my nature of I N T E L L I G E N T D R O P S. Hella immensely dropped the bomber loop in the end though. I dunno if the game is hard combo wise or its too easy that there’s much left to be desired. It’s easy yet hard (probably more so for target demographic). #GGST_Ax pic.twitter.com/EQRCTomwx5— PBE.NiteRAId@Home (@NiteRAId) April 19, 2020
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