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LukeToday at 3:43 PM snail seems to be the go to loop pickup for antiairs near the corner with RC you can go into cS TK bomber pickups, and I got it once to link to 5K on the way down and never again after cS > 5H > snail > 66 RC drift > cs TK bomber but if you can link 5k then 6K gatling should work, and then snail ender maybe [3:44 PM] the 5k pickup link after that string seemed extremely tight though [3:47 PM] without RC the max I seem to get after a 2S is 2S > snail > 5P > snail [3:47 PM] 5P > 6K > snail > 5P > snail also works but is range limited on the last snail, rensen does not pick up from farther ranges unfortunately [3:48 PM] (if anyone is wondering, I am somehow still in training mode after starting the ps4 from rest mode) [3:49 PM] aaaaaand I got kicked out lol [3:51 PM] someone smarter than me can probably figure out better combo routes cocojam™™Today at 3:53 PM snail really do be the bomber loop replacement huh LukeToday at 3:53 PM looks like lol [3:53 PM] it's a cool move [3:53 PM] but its no bomber [3:53 PM] you can still do bomber loops but they seem really hard [3:53 PM] because people fall so fucking fast now [3:54 PM] so I feel like I'm limited to cS or 5K > Bomber looping cocojam™™Today at 3:54 PM i mean you are because of jump cancels LukeToday at 3:54 PM yea but I also cant really pick up from the air [3:55 PM] because they fall too fast cocojam™™Today at 3:55 PM oh LukeToday at 3:55 PM like, you can if youre looking for it [3:55 PM] but after a single bomber if you're somewhat deep in a combo you need to pick up with 5k or cS, jumping doesnt seem fast enough to pick up after bomber [3:56 PM] so like the above string I posted [3:56 PM] cS > 5H > snail > 66 RC drift > cs TK bomber [3:56 PM] theres a tight link where you can link up 5K when tehy're falling down but that's about it. You can probably do 5K > tk bomber to pick up but no jumping and meeting them in the air to do like jD bomber and stuff [3:57 PM] but also after 2S its not really possible either [3:57 PM] kinda sucks [3:57 PM] I feel like I got it a few times after 2S but it's after CH and being almost right next to them in the corner, so not a realistic scenario [4:00 PM] honestly probably have to forget about doing anything other than snail out of 2S [4:00 PM] just 2S > snail > whatever cocojam™™Today at 4:02 PM yeah snail is a magic tool [4:02 PM] and 2s is stinky now LukeToday at 4:03 PM at least with RC drift cS > TK bomber seems far more of a reality [4:03 PM] i still dont know how to properly wallbreak without doing super or that cS tk bomber starter combo haha cocojam™™Today at 4:04 PM what input are you using for for tk bomber when you cancel out of c.s? I was struggling with it, was trying 6923 and 9623 like i did off of different confirms in xrd but nothin was working LukeToday at 4:06 PM 923H works for me [4:06 PM] hold 9 to get the first jc frame and then 23H cocojam™™Today at 4:07 PM i'll try that when its back up, i think i was doing 23 too fast before i was able to jump off of c.s [4:07 PM] patience is not my strong suit(edited) LukeToday at 4:07 PM if you do it too fast you might get a 6H or 5H gatling. if you do it too slow you get a jH cocojam™™Today at 4:08 PM yeah, or the third option i kept getting, mashing 6923 like butter and getting red super LukeToday at 4:08 PM hahah [4:08 PM] yeah that happened to me at first a bit
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LukeToday at 10:57 AM rensen as an ender seems good only for far AA confirms from 5P [10:57 AM] apparently you can get it after 2S Ch > 6K but I dont know if you have enough time to charge if it's not CH [10:58 AM] the startup is massive now, and it seems more suited as an actual long range fireball rather than a combo/blockstun tool. snail is what you want for what you used to use rensen for [10:58 AM] it launches on hit so you get some of that rensen goodness, but everyone bounces so far away now that I'm still not sure how to reliably convert off of it [10:59 AM] the good thing is that snail is actually sick, covers a massive amount of the mid range even if it kinda sucks that it has a deadzone close to axl IzzirezToday at 11:01 AM air rainwater crossups have been doing some work for me [11:01 AM] and air snail is good as well LukeToday at 11:01 AM wait. you can do air rainwater? I thought it was grounded only FuryfireToday at 11:02 AM Air Snail is what he likely means LukeToday at 11:02 AM yeah but then they said air snail lol IzzirezToday at 11:02 AM am I misremembering? I thought thats what I was doing last night lol LukeToday at 11:02 AM rainwater is only grounded pretty sure IzzirezToday at 11:02 AM I need to boot up my game again, hold on LukeToday at 11:02 AM and i dont know how you combo into it. its been the move that I've used the least(edited) IzzirezToday at 11:03 AM your right, rainwater crossups have been catching people for me and air snail has been pretty good as well LukeToday at 11:04 AM how do you crossup off rainwater? you move backwards IzzirezToday at 11:04 AM I stayed up way too late last night playing, trying to remember all the stuff I was doing lol [11:04 AM] I'll need to check my replays, but I definitely had it cross people up [11:05 AM] there are some weird interactions with dashing under and air dashes and such LukeToday at 11:06 AM oh I can see that. would require the opp to be moving forwards I guess [11:06 AM] or you can dash under too I guess Message #axl-lounge
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LukeToday at 10:35 AM btw I forgot last night cause I was in the middle of the beta excitement but you can actually do 923H for tk bomber [10:35 AM] which is what I actually do [10:36 AM] the fwd input in 9 counts for the DP motion [10:36 AM] my issue with that combo is I have no idea when it is applicable in a match, confirming cS into bomber is not something I imagine myself doing often and outside of punish situations in the corner it doesnt seem that applicable [10:38 AM] the fact that 5K and cS are the only jump cancelable normals is ass. It makes the AA game so much less dynamic and more boring for Axl. I dont know why they went with this homogeneous approach to jc normals(edited) FuryfireToday at 10:40 AM Yeah. I'm doing the 923H for mine [10:40 AM] It's the easiest way on Pad [10:41 AM] As for Bomber. [10:41 AM] It really is best used in the corner [10:41 AM] It's just so much easier to end your strings with 214H [10:41 AM] And it does about the same damage [10:43 AM] It's really good used after time stop though because of the launch LukeToday at 10:44 AM yes bomber is for corner, just your only jc normals are cS and 5K FuryfireToday at 10:44 AM Correct LukeToday at 10:44 AM so normal into tk bomber combo is only good for that [10:44 AM] i dont know how applicable that specific setup is in real matches FuryfireToday at 10:45 AM Well, Axl doesn't get many wall splat tools outside of Axl Bomber [10:45 AM] Just based on playing [10:45 AM] I'm sure there's more LukeToday at 10:45 AM I just mean the specific scenario of cS > TK bomber FuryfireToday at 10:45 AM Oh yeah LukeToday at 10:45 AM or even 5K > TK bomber [10:46 AM] maybe on CH you have enough time to confirm but it doesnt sound doable to me FuryfireToday at 10:46 AM It doesn't - You just have to eye it LukeToday at 10:46 AM well then it's not really good outside of punish situations in the corner which is what I was saying FuryfireToday at 10:46 AM Yeah... I just feel like I should practice it for that situation though but in any case... I should practice other things LukeToday at 10:47 AM Ive been trying to get stuff to go into bomber from 2S in the corner and it doesnt really seem like you get much, but I didnt know that 5K was jump cancelable until it was time for me to stop for the evening
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