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I compiled my thoughts into a random twitter thread
GeorgeLiquorToday at 1:12 AM
You’re doing gods work.
KrackatoaToday at 1:12 AM
Just for STP
GeorgeLiquorToday at 1:13 AM
But I agree. S tele is really strong. Do you think it will become less so as people become more accustomed to Faust’s?
KrackatoaToday at 1:18 AM
No.
[1:18 AM]
My eyes see all.
[1:19 AM]
They might get better at defending themselves
GeorgeLiquorToday at 1:19 AM
Although. Potemkin hurts.
KrackatoaToday at 1:19 AM
But I'm talking about it as if they already can
GeorgeLiquorToday at 1:19 AM
He can grab you at ANY point with the super buster
KrackatoaToday at 1:19 AM
Jump. :V
GeorgeLiquorToday at 1:20 AM
No no. I mean. Of you 246 S , he can snatch you out of invisible air
KrackatoaToday at 1:20 AM
You have 6f of throw invuln on wakeup, and potential out of blockstun. I would use it.
GeorgeLiquorToday at 1:20 AM
With his leaping super. Forget name
KrackatoaToday at 1:21 AM
Right, but you PRC on the ground.
GeorgeLiquorToday at 1:21 AM
I could be confused. But I’m 99% positive he can connect it prior thr the PRC
KrackatoaToday at 1:21 AM
Like, S Teleport leaves you invisible right in front of pot on the ground
[1:21 AM]
And the PRC window comes so quickly that he can't possibly react in time to do heavenly
[1:22 AM]
So he would be doing random yolo heavenly
GeorgeLiquorToday at 1:22 AM
It might have been. But I was playing one player who caught me twice in one match, a third in another
KrackatoaToday at 1:22 AM
I'm talking about PRCing out of the startup of the teleport
[1:23 AM]
Not PRCing post impact
[1:23 AM]
Well, I'm talking about both
GeorgeLiquorToday at 1:24 AM
Maybe I’m talking out of my ass as I’m trying to relearn how to..talk about fighters.
KrackatoaToday at 1:25 AM
Well, in this case, are you PRCing at the top of the screen?
GeorgeLiquorToday at 1:25 AM
All I’m saying is of you pull it out, and it’s S, tele, Potemkin can grab you I think prior to PRC
KrackatoaToday at 1:26 AM
Unless you got some footage I just can't believe that unless the move is super super super oddly programmed.
GeorgeLiquorToday at 1:27 AM
I’ll see if I can find it. I intentionally saved anything I thought might be useful to the players better than I. And remembered this as odd and frustrating punish
KrackatoaToday at 1:27 AM
This sounds like you're not PRCing teleport immediately upon the movement happening.
[1:28 AM]
Because Faust is stationary, and in 1 frame he moves right in front of the opponent, and if you PRC it puts you in a grounded PRC animation smack dap in front of them for 7 frames
[1:30 AM]
So unless he has some magic throwable box throughout the duration of him being hidden, at the top of the screen, even then it shouldn't work.(edited)
[1:30 AM]
Unless Pot does a super random heavenly
[1:30 AM]
It sounds like you're doing S Teleport, Pot is reacting, doing HPB, and he grabs you during the downwards followup
GeorgeLiquorToday at 1:30 AM
Yeah ok. You very well may be right. The way it felt was that he did infact have an magical box you can’t see, hence why I mentioned it.
KrackatoaToday at 1:31 AM
At which point you can't PRC to ground.
GeorgeLiquorToday at 1:31 AM
Yeah. Very possible. You’re likely right.
[1:31 AM]
I’ll try revisiting it and seeing if I can recreate it/find the video.
KrackatoaToday at 1:31 AM
Have you tried STP > Fast PRC > Grab yet?
[1:32 AM]
I really don't think that's HPBusterable
[1:32 AM]
If it is... damn
GeorgeLiquorToday at 1:32 AM
No not yet actually. Just the PRC aspect
KrackatoaToday at 1:32 AM
The mix I'm talking about involves three things
[1:34 AM]
S.TP > Immediate PRC > Grab (Unreactable full screen grab)
S.TP > Let it follow through > RC on hit (Can punish attempts to beat the above setup and other teleports)
S.TP > Let it follow through > PRC on block > Mix them up.
[1:35 AM]
The problem for them is most of the punishes to this attempt are hard reads
[1:36 AM]
They can't react to the PRC Grab attempt vs. letting it rip
GeorgeLiquorToday at 1:36 AM
Got it. So maybe I was reacting too slowly
[1:36 AM]
As I wasn’t trying to grab
KrackatoaToday at 1:37 AM
Ah, it's not a reaction.
[1:37 AM]
The PRC grab happens almost instantly
[1:37 AM]
You just... instantly appear in front of the opponent and scoop em
[1:37 AM]
I'll see if I can find a clip
GeorgeLiquorToday at 1:37 AM
K so I probably wasn’t doing it right then. Hence the confusion on my part.
Faust can do an interesting mix from MMM prcYou can go j.k or do down dash PRC to link 2p into c.S like shown in the video. Timing is pretty tight though.#GGST_FA pic.twitter.com/qcuGuk2w1T— SartoffelKalat (@SartoffelKalat_) February 19, 2021
I've only posted two more, both just different ideas off the same Scalpull starter. I've seen some good stuff through the #GGST_FA hashtag though.1) https://t.co/aI79N1swIP2) https://t.co/AjuVVNY0v3— Fit x CheFGC Ryyudo (@Ryyudo) February 19, 2021
You can connect cS after CH 2D ( there surely is amore optimal combo)#GGST_FAhttps://t.co/zQ1uYrjieF pic.twitter.com/H59IXfyZR6— Guachaut (@Guachaut40) February 19, 2021
#ggst_FA #ggstrive #guiltygearstriveHeres a fun highlight video of my Faust Stream showing:Teleport Shenanigans, Love Bag going in the wrong direction, Twitter combos in matches, Nago about to hit me DEEP but Purple RC saves!also nice musical timing if you catch it lol. pic.twitter.com/ZZay5OV4Uy— Lord Cruxis (@LordCruxis) February 19, 2021
#ggst_Fa non afro mix up. I can't fix it since game is down If they blk 1st hit no wall break. Not optimized no time pic.twitter.com/jcJoafoboH— Lord Cruxis (@LordCruxis) February 19, 2021
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KaiYesterday at 11:00 PM
So anyone know how to use scarecrow P or K versions decently? I can catch people with the Slash version pretty often, but the P and K versions, I always just get punched because it autocorrects them to hit which one I'm at.
@Kai
So anyone know how to use scarecrow P or K versions decently? I can catch people with the Slash version pretty often, but the P and K versions, I always just get punched because it autocorrects them to hit which one I'm at.
SwiftyXRDYesterday at 11:14 PM
You can cover yourself if you throw an item like a horn, mini-faust, or bomb(edited)
KrackatoaYesterday at 11:15 PM
They're good with chibi faust cover
[11:15 PM]
The P and K versions suck otherwise
[11:15 PM]
I would use them very sparingly because there's still a "mix" there when paired with S Tele
[11:16 PM]
But think of S Tele on it's own as it's own thing
[11:16 PM]
S Tele early PRC mixed with S Tele is always good(edited)
KaiYesterday at 11:17 PM
I've had plenty of use for S Scarecrow, especially since it's hard to deal with if they're covered by an item like Minifaust or dealing with a bomb
[11:17 PM]
I just was trying to find more use for the other two but I always get hit by mash
SwiftyXRDYesterday at 11:19 PM
Yeah, you should use it sparingly, probably the best thing you can do is try to cause some chaos on screen for the sake of misdirection before you go for it
[11:20 PM]
I didn't really get much time to discover any other options for it though since the servers died
ashxuYesterday at 11:39 PM
cant remember did anyone figure out faust's frame data? was wondering if 5p/2p/2k are still plus
KrackatoaYesterday at 11:47 PM
They are not
ashxuYesterday at 11:48 PM
damn wtf, i thought they were
[11:48 PM]
i presume slightly neg at least
KrackatoaYesterday at 11:51 PM
Like -1 or so
[11:51 PM]
Still good.
[11:51 PM]
Because jumping away or up is an option
[11:52 PM]
Fast jabs that might cause you trouble get trapped easily
[11:52 PM]
Remember, their options out of block are much worse than Xrd
Before the beta cut, I just found this combo with Faust and was about to start exploring it, curious to what the damage would be if instead of 5HS I did 6HS. #GGST #GGST_FA pic.twitter.com/oQ9qDdQLQr— Zayd | Munster (@MunsterFGC) February 19, 2021
#Ggst_fa sick afro mix up. 5S goes into 2D. Once they fear that, go high with this. I got a non afro but game crash. pic.twitter.com/x5uEMrlI7E— Lord Cruxis (@LordCruxis) February 19, 2021